Posted by: PigTech on May 30, 2003 at 09:50:58 Forum Administrator

: This is probably a really dumb question but here goes. I bought a 68 ci/4500psi Crossfire tank that outputs at 800psi. I modded my Electra DX to go low pressure (runs fine at 300 psi) but it uses lots of air. I was wondering if the same crossfire (68ci/4500psi 800 out) gets less shots than a 68 ci/4500 psi Crossfire that outputs at 400psi? I have a palmer stabilizer that is set at 300 psi, does this have an effect on how many shots I get out of my 800 psi output tank? : Also, if I set the Palmer to output higher the gun will yield more shots or maybe seal better? I have the Maddman springs and the Maddman Rocket Valve. They allow the gun to shoot at about 270 psi but the velocity is low. At 300 psi it hits 290 fps perfectly and consistently but the gun uses up so much air. That is my main problem, trying to get more shots out of my 68ci/4500 800psi output tank. Pretty much out of the 68ci/4500 tank I get about 600 shots. Is that right? I remember it being 15 shots per ci which works out to like 1020 shots. : Thanks in advance, : Balde. Lowering your operating pressure typically often decreases gas efficiency. In my opinion the reason people think it increases efficiency, especially in blowbacks like the Spyder is that the gun is not all that efficient to start with. The stock gun won't work at low pressure, so people put on new parts (bolt, valve, springs, etc.) that are more efficient. With the newer more efficient parts, the gun is now efficient enough to work at the lower pressures, so they lower the pressure. Now the gun is more efficient than when they started so they say "Look, the lower pressure is more efficient," when it's really the replacement parts that are more efficient. On guns like the Matrix, it's been shown that their low pressure operation is less efficient. See you on the field, -Bill Mills

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