Posted by: ArtVanHecke on September 05, 2003 at 14:16:16

If you are looking for an electronic cocker, look at the J2 from CMM. Jason sells the J2 set up for an eBlade (no trigger group) for about $575 and it is already drilled for the eye and screw-hole. You can get an eBlade on eBay for less than $350. Add a halo to that and your bill with shipping will be about $1075. Putting it together will take a couple of hours. Email me if you have problems. Very smooth gun with faster than you will ever need fire rate and very high quality and finish. They have a website: http://www.chipleymachine.com/flash.html Now if you want a higher possible rate of fire, get a Bob Long Intimidator and have some custom trigger work done on it. The CCM doesn't have any recoil, bit the timmy does and you can trigger it in such a way that the recoil pulls the trigger against your finger. Like full auto. It is impressive, but when you turn the eye on and start putting balls through it, it slows down a bit. If you want show more than go, get the timmy. The J2 is the way high end of cockers and is really made for those who know the gun. Great piece of work. Get an eBlade J2, throw away (or sell) the smart parts barrel, put on a Septer 16" barrel system and a Nitro Duck Mega-reg (or Xtreme reg if you can't go the mega-reg) and you will have one sweet setup. Makes a heck of a rig for a back player (I know I R one). Art Art : I'm considering a nice gun (up to $1000 for gun) and am looking at everything. At first I dismissed cockers because they dont shoot as fast, and then like 10 people trounced on me and said get a cocker, if you want an electro trigger get it with an electro trigger. : Honestly, i find it hard to believe that a cocker which is really old can do 20bps. I'm not talking capable, I'm talking can do without shootdown. I know, for example, that an E-MAG can do 26bps without any shootdown. Too bad they're so ugly. : Does anyone know for fact that a cocker is capable of at least 18bps? Really, I probably can't pull the trigger faster than that anyway in any situation so I wouldnt need it too be faster, but my question is can it even handle that much? Im talking stock. : Second part is, which aftermarket cockers will handle this better? Which are the better lower cost aftermarket (or barely aftermarket) cockers? For example, the ANS GENX3 is about $560, the outkast is $495, the STO is about $550, 32* is $580, which is the best bang for buck considering I'm going to have a high ROF? Remember, I'm going to have to add an E-Blade for like $380 so I cant spend to much on the base cocker. Ideally I'd buy a Planet Eclipse E-Blade Cocker, the cheapest I can find it is $1199. Hmm. Not so bad considering its a really nice cocker mod with the electro trigger and anti-chop-eye already installed. What cocker is the best deal? : Thanks

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