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: : I need someone to explain to me, in technical terms, why a phantom is more accurate than a flatline. I break balls (no pun intended) on a 9 inch pie pan at 200 feet. I'm not bragging, I just want the best gun available. : [whisper]shh...i'll tell you a secret. pumps aren't more accurate. check out the tech section of warpig, closed bolt is all hype.[/w] : Really, they aren't. What happens is that as a pump player, you are forced to choose your shots better and improve your snapshooting skills because you don't have the ability to whip off a string of shots in case you miss. You also don't take shots you don't think will hit. In terms of percentage of hits to shots, this improves accuracy, but not in terms of grouping, etc. : As previously mentioned, the Phantom's stock barrel is a very good one, along with precision machining throughout. The increased accuracy, consistency, and reliability you get out of quality craftsmanship is what sets the Phantom apart among pump guns. And let's face it, most pumps these days are made by companies that are more interested in the other, semi-auto, markers they make. The Phantom is CCI's sole product. It is the company. : The other attraction is partially based on the enforced low ROF. Because you choose your shots, you don't carry as much paint. I usually walk onto a field with 100 rds, mostly in 10rd tubes on my belt. This allows you move more quickly and nimbly and tuck into smaller bunkers/trees/cover. : As for a Flatline, that's a different story. I owned one and the range is amazing. On the other hand, the one I had (early production) was insanely inaccurate. Not only could you not rely on the ball's path at range, but if you had the misfortune of feeding a dimpled ball, you couldn't rely on it to go where you wanted at close range. Some of the newer ones I've tried seem to do better, but you need really good paint for it to work the best. And when it comes to mobility with a Flatline, forget it. An 18" barrel on the front of an already long gun doesn't make a bunker hugger. : As with any other choice of paintball gear, it's stupid (and I don't use that word a lot) to think that one piece of equipment will be the best fit to every player's style of play. And personally, I think that the various gear setups and playing styles is a big part of what makes paintball fun. If your Flatline works for you, play with it, don't buy a Phantom. My Phantom works for me and you'll never see me trade it for a Flatline.