Posted by: Steven "sleepyguy" Stockdale on October 06, 2003 at 20:42:39

I got to rambling and forgot to answer your question. I bought mine (used) for about $120 which included a bunch of other little goodies. New phantoms can usually be found for cheaper through a store as opposed to the factory if you can find a store that has one with the setup that you're looking for. But for the cheapest possible is going to be used (and good luck finding someone willing to sell their Phantom, it took me several months of searching). -And as a side note: I did buy another barrel for mine. I bought a 14" nickle barrel from cci for something like $15 only because I live in a very humid climate and wanted a slightly larger bore because balls swell considerably here. But for most climates, the stock barrel will out-preform just about any $100 aftermarket barrel. : Forget about "upgrades" with a phantom! The only "upgrades" that you may want may be a bottomline if you plan on playing C/A (with a co2 tank) and choosing between a gravity feed (like most semi's) or a tube feed (for stock class), both of which cci can do at the factory at a fraction of the cost of having anyone else do it. The Phantom shoots like a dream right out of the box and doesn't need any expensive "upgrades" that other guns do. Anything else you do to a Phantom is probably just cosmetic. : : : : Thanks for the info guys! Of all the pumps I've seen the phantom seems to be doing best. With perhaps the Sniper being second (or am I wrong on that : ). : : : : : : Gotin : : One thing the Sniper has that the Phantom doesn't is all the non-pneumatic upgrades for the Autococker (like barrels, bolts, spring sets, back blocks, etc). : : If you like the idea of stock class, the Phantom can be easily converted. The Phantom is lighter, the Sniper is smoother. : : My advice is to try both - they feel so different that you'll probably like one over the other just by feel. : : Tom

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