Posted by: PigTech on November 26, 2003 at 16:35:41 Forum Administrator

: : This is my first posting so please bear with me. I bought a Para Ordanance Model 85(Full Aoto) back in the mid 80's along with a full case of ammo for it. The ammo has been long gone now for several years. The company that I bought the gun from is no more. The gun is still in excellent condition and I need help in finding the manufacture of this thing so I can start playing again. It was made in Toronto, Canada. I bought the gun at The Command Post in Crestview, Fla. Can anyone out there throw me a line or help me find some more ammo? Searching the internet almost blind. This is the only place so far that I have heard any mention of The PARA ORDANANCE MODEL 85. Help. Command Post - I haven't heard that name in a while. My wife bought my first JT JSX Goggles from them. They went out of business in the late 80s. The Model 85 came in two versions, semi and full auto. There was no select fire, though one could change out the sear to switch between modes. Full auto is of course prohibited at most paintball fields. The die used to make the cartridges for the Model 85 broke in the late 80s. In 1996 I spoke to a Para Ordinance manager at the SHOT show who said they had no plans to repair it, since the Model 85 had been discontinued. However, if you have the cartridges, they are reloadable. Reloading dies used to be available from Para Ordinance but are discontinued. You might find a used set, or present a machinist with your handloading press and the parts, to get them made. .357 Magnum primers were used to propel the paintball, and loaded into the cartridge by the loading press. The real trick would be finding 9.5mm (.37 caliber) paintballs to load into the cartridges. These haven't been made since the mid 1980s, and unfortunately, setting up an encapsulation machine to make your own typically involves a cash outlay of well over $100,000 (a 5 machine factory and support staff and equipment here in FL cost $6,000,000 to set up.) If you jump through all those hurdles, you'll have something fun to shoot at targets, but not people. The velocity of the Model 85 typically runs from 350 to 400 feet per second, well above the accepted 300 foot per second limit for paintball. The real value is as a piece of paintball history. See you on the field, -Bill Mills

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