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WARPIG Tech Talk - Spyder
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Posted by Nicko999 on July 21, 2002 at 08:39:23:

In Reply to: Regulator & Upgrade Questions (then I'm finished) posted by TheMaskedBowler on July 20, 2002 at 02:22:33:

: Hi. I'd just like to say thank you to everyone who has responded to all my questions. You've all been very helpful during my re-initiation to paintball, especially since there are no real pro shops anywhere near me. Here's my final batch of questions, and then I'll have my final setup complete. Thanks again!

: Regulators/Air System stuff
: I've been looking at a lot of regulators (now that I understand what they actually do), and I'm trying to decide which one I should get. I'm going to be using CO2, because I'd like to keep the cost down, since I'm going to end up paying as much for a barrel and a reg as I will for my gun and because I'm only going to be playing paintball once every few weeks at best and only during the spring/summer... Which one of these regulators will work best on a Spyder TL? (or TL+, depends on what's cheaper when I go to buy it.)

: Quick question first: what does ASA mean in the phrase "Male bottle threads on the output end for direct input to standard ASA. Most commonly used in the vertical position. Gauge can be installed to read regulated pressure." That's from a Palmer product description. I don't have a clue what ASA means...

: Anyway, the regs I've been looking at are:
: Pure Energy's Vertical In-Line Regulator Model 1157

: Palmer 's Pursuit Shop's Rock and/or MiniRock regulators.

: The Kingman-made Spyder Regulator Kit. This can also be found at this link.

: Which one of these regulator systems will do the job best (and cheapest), considering that I'm not a tourney player and I'm only going to be using the gun maybe 7-10 times per year at the absolute most? If you all can suggest any regulators that I may not have heard about that would work better, please feel free to tell me.

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: My only other air system question is this: will I still need to get an anti-siphon or anything else aside from the regulator? It seems like the Spyder TL comes with just about everything else I need (expansion chamber and all that).

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: Barrels
: The barrel is the second and only other upgrade I ever plan on buying. I'm going to get a Lapco Autospirit (or maybe a BigShot). Good choice? And is there really any significant performance difference between the 12" and 14" versions? (And if there is, what is it?) Oh yeah, and will the barrel just slide right into place, or do I need to get some sort of adapter or something like that?

:
: Well, there you go. Spyder TL, regulator of some sort, and a Lapco barrel. How does that sound, heh? Thanks again for all your help!

Have you considered the costs of all these upgrades for a spider that you say your'e only going to use a few times a year, almost add up to the cost of a stock mag or cocker?You can find either on the internet for much lower than the list price in the magazines and such.They both outperform the spiders by a longshot.Or,if you want to be truly economical, look at the spider TL,and the features it has that make it more expensive than the other spiders:

gas-thru foregrip/mini expansion chamber,etc.-useless exept as a foregrip.

beavertail,sight-rail, purely cosmetic,exept that you need it on account of the bolt sticking out the back of the gun

bottomline:well, that you may actually want to have,but you can still geat those anywhere

all the other features you still get with most other spider guns,basically the TL just looks cooler.
Why not buy a cheaper spider,either with a bottomline or get one yourselfand put it on,an anti-syphon tank(much cheaper than a regulator),and any of the multitudes of aftermarket barrels,and use that money for other equipment or even better...paint.
If you're dead set on spending the money you've budgeted yourself,consider spending it on something that performs better than a spider from day one.A good barrel is probably the most effective upgrade for a spider,all others are redundant.
These are the things I ran into when I returned to paintball,and I hope they help you in some way,welcome back and prepare to have a lot of fun.



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