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Re: RE: Hellrazor, Got a few Q's for ya

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Posted by Steve "B-Ski" Biedrzycki on August 22, 2002 at 13:46:06:

In Reply to: RE: Hellrazor, Got a few Q's for ya posted by Hellrazor on August 22, 2002 at 02:52:55:

: : I tried the screw thing and I haven't noticed any other wear but the scratches are both above and below the milling on the bolt. Are there replacement (aftermarket, Delrin, self lubing...) bolts for the AMG? Also, I go through air like I've never seen before with my AMG. Is there anything I can do to the internals (valves, etc...) that I could replace to lower the op pressure? Would a LP chamber help? I live pretty close to BC paintball and JC and the guys are pretty good with helping me do the tech stuff, but when I ask them about this stuff, they just say do what I want. Also, I'm really interested with the trigger shortening you did with buying the smaller switch and stuff. How can I do that to my AMG? Did you get the Vision eye thing finished for your spyder? If so, How can I get that upgrade? I know it's a lot of questions, but I shoot a cocker as a main gun and an AMG for a back up. I'm trying to get the AMG to be as effective as my cocker on air, and an Angel like trigger pull would be so sweet.

: So far as I know, the AMG uses standard spyder bolts. Unless they are screwing with my head and making changes on me. There is tons of things you can do to modify the internals. You can polish them, you can replace the valve for lower op pressure, a shocktech LPC is massive, really. Shadow_walker is getting one on his spyder, and it should help a little. All it does is act as a resevior for the valve to draw air from. If it is bigger, you get less chance of shootdown, which is also the ASA. I know SW is trying to replace just about everything on his gun. I wouldn't fool with the electronics just yet, just because we still have to do it ourselves. We're still working on the ACE, we'll post it up when we get everything working great. How long is your trigger pull now? Because you can simply adjust the set screw on top of the trigger to shorten it. If you unscrew it too far, it'll depress the switch and it won't reset. So make sure you don't do that. Hope that helps. Hellrazor out.

Hey,
That wood grip thing sounds cool, but I like the gel grips myself. Who do I take my parts to to polish them, what do I polish? Could I do it myself? I'm gonna try switching out the bolt with the one I have in my SE, to see. Do you recommend any certain parts to lower the Op pressure? I took the set screw in my trigger and lightened it as far as it can go without that certain problem. but it's still like a 2mm pull. I'm gonna replace it anyway with the check it trigger, but that's as close as I can get it. I have a first gen ELCD on my SE and I have the pull down to like .5mm it's light, but I can't seem to get my ESP frame to get that light. It's getting frustrating. Oh and ACE? Is that the vision eye thing? If you guys get it finished, will you be selling it? Or doing custom adjustments for a price? Oh yeah, the screw thing for the detent wasn't it, it's just wear on the bolt. It's just more than I'm used to seeing. That is until I was refurbishing a piranah for a friend of mine and saw his was just as bad off. I'm still going to look for a Delrin bolt. I have one on my cocker and I love it. Actually, now that I think about it, the bolt on my AMG has the cocking rod attatched to the bolt, not the hammer like all the other spyders I've seen. ??? Are there other spyder bolts out there with the cocking rod attatched to it? Is it just simply moving the rod from the hammer and screwing it into somewhere on the bolt? Oh well, I'm typing a book here, so I'll give it a rest for another day. See ya

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Re: RE: Hellrazor, Got a few Q's for ya Hellrazor 14:22:07 08/22/02 (2)
- Re: RE: Hellrazor, Got a few Q's for ya Steve "B-Ski" Biedrzycki 23:30:08 08/22/02 (1)
  - Re: RE: Hellrazor, Got a few Q's for ya Hellrazor
    00:55:22 08/23/02 (0)

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: : : I tried the screw thing and I haven't noticed any other wear but the scratches are both above and below the milling on the bolt. Are there replacement (aftermarket, Delrin, self lubing...) bolts for the AMG? Also, I go through air like I've never seen before with my AMG. Is there anything I can do to the internals (valves, etc...) that I could replace to lower the op pressure? Would a LP chamber help? I live pretty close to BC paintball and JC and the guys are pretty good with helping me do the tech stuff, but when I ask them about this stuff, they just say do what I want. Also, I'm really interested with the trigger shortening you did with buying the smaller switch and stuff. How can I do that to my AMG? Did you get the Vision eye thing finished for your spyder? If so, How can I get that upgrade? I know it's a lot of questions, but I shoot a cocker as a main gun and an AMG for a back up. I'm trying to get the AMG to be as effective as my cocker on air, and an Angel like trigger pull would be so sweet. : : So far as I know, the AMG uses standard spyder bolts. Unless they are screwing with my head and making changes on me. There is tons of things you can do to modify the internals. You can polish them, you can replace the valve for lower op pressure, a shocktech LPC is massive, really. Shadow_walker is getting one on his spyder, and it should help a little. All it does is act as a resevior for the valve to draw air from. If it is bigger, you get less chance of shootdown, which is also the ASA. I know SW is trying to replace just about everything on his gun. I wouldn't fool with the electronics just yet, just because we still have to do it ourselves. We're still working on the ACE, we'll post it up when we get everything working great. How long is your trigger pull now? Because you can simply adjust the set screw on top of the trigger to shorten it. If you unscrew it too far, it'll depress the switch and it won't reset. So make sure you don't do that. Hope that helps. Hellrazor out. : Hey, : That wood grip thing sounds cool, but I like the gel grips myself. Who do I take my parts to to polish them, what do I polish? Could I do it myself? I'm gonna try switching out the bolt with the one I have in my SE, to see. Do you recommend any certain parts to lower the Op pressure? I took the set screw in my trigger and lightened it as far as it can go without that certain problem. but it's still like a 2mm pull. I'm gonna replace it anyway with the check it trigger, but that's as close as I can get it. I have a first gen ELCD on my SE and I have the pull down to like .5mm it's light, but I can't seem to get my ESP frame to get that light. It's getting frustrating. Oh and ACE? Is that the vision eye thing? If you guys get it finished, will you be selling it? Or doing custom adjustments for a price? Oh yeah, the screw thing for the detent wasn't it, it's just wear on the bolt. It's just more than I'm used to seeing. That is until I was refurbishing a piranah for a friend of mine and saw his was just as bad off. I'm still going to look for a Delrin bolt. I have one on my cocker and I love it. Actually, now that I think about it, the bolt on my AMG has the cocking rod attatched to the bolt, not the hammer like all the other spyders I've seen. ??? Are there other spyder bolts out there with the cocking rod attatched to it? Is it just simply moving the rod from the hammer and screwing it into somewhere on the bolt? Oh well, I'm typing a book here, so I'll give it a rest for another day. See ya

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