Posted by: Ronald "The Phantom Menace" Danuser on March 30, 2003 at 20:47:15

Sounds like you have a good thing going. Those game of friends out having fun are the best. I agree w/ Lord Bunker in regards to the Talons. Sure they might not be supremly accurate or get tremendous range, but if you take care of them and use good paint they are a tremendous marker for only $20. I would love to see a tourney using only Talons. I have a couple more ideas for your backyard games. The first is a game that I love. I created it a few years ago when I was developing the Richland Snipers Guild. Here's the game. One person enters the playing area with a flag. This is the Sniper. To stay true to the game. he'll have a limited number of balls to use. He places the flag anywhere on the field and is to prevent the 'Hunters' from grabbing the flag and taking it to a predetermined location. The Hunters are not allowed to watch the Sniper enter the field and must wait 5 minutes (or any other predetermined time depending on field size) befor the enter the area. This game can be modified to accomidate varying marker qualities as well as player's skills/experience. For example, if you have two really good Hunters going aginst a lesser experienced Sniper who has a lesser quality marker, increase the Sniper's capacity and decrease the Hunters. My favorite tactic is to hang the flag where the Hunters can see it (a ways off) then hide myself just inside the playing area's boundries. Then I nail 'em just as they enter. I've got tons of great stories regarding different tactics playing this game and they almost all involve people jumping out of their pants (myself included) when they get hit when they thihnk no one else is around. Another idea to modify play is to take off those hoppers and play with 10 round tubes stuck verticly into your elbows. This levels the playing field tremendously between different markers. Thanks Ben 'Pump Scout' Kohen for keeping this style of play alive. I play almost exclusivly w/ 10 rounders now. Another modification might be adjusting paint capacity for 12 grams vs CA. We do that and it seems to help a lot. As for marker suggestion. For your price range and what you're using them for I would highly recommend the Tippmann SL 68 II. Often you can pick up a whole set (marker, goggles, CA tank, hopper etc..) on E Bay for about $70. The SLs are reliable, easy to take care of, require little maintinance, are accurate enough and are built like tanks. They'll take all kinds of abouse and just keep going. There's a limited upgrade path, but they don't really need anything and you said you were'nt looking to upgrade anyway. Tippmann is also a great company that will stand behind it's product if you do need any help. Good luck and let us know how things turn out. : as having played with three people before and mixtures i'd say it's not really the markers people use but the people behind them. many experienced players can play just as effectivly or sometimes even better with a pump than they can a semi. : having said that. if your just playing friendly games. the best adivice i can give you is to try diffrent scenarios rather than diffrent equipment. try attack and defend. let the one person set up in some kind of uber bunker. : but generally free for all's are your best bet. : AND NEVER DISRESPECT THE TALON. i'd much rather have a talon by my side than anyother battery operated nitro powered 25 ball per second poop shooter. Talon's are a serious skill marker. and i can honestly say the best times i've had palying were with a talon. even times i've pitted me and my talon against bushmasters and angels. to disrespect the talon is to disrispect the type of mentality it takes to play with a pump markers in general. but i guess since you see pump's as a way to balance out an uneven game then i guess you probably wouldn't understand that.

Follow Ups: Wowowoowowow, hold on... Back2it 22:51:00 03/30/03 (3) yep Lord Bunker 23:49:46 03/30/03 (2) Hey, I understand Back2it 21:14:47 03/31/03 (1) that's ok (nt) Lord Bunker 22:03:28 03/31/03 (0) Post a Followup Show your name as: DefaultRealnameBothNickname E-Mail address (eg: joeschmoe@aol.com): Show your e-mail address? DefaultYesNo Your Password: Don't have a password? CLICK HERE - Forgot your password? CLICK HERE Subject: Subject:Message: : Sounds like you have a good thing going. Those game of friends out having fun are the best. : I agree w/ Lord Bunker in regards to the Talons. Sure they might not be supremly accurate or get tremendous range, but if you take care of them and use good paint they are a tremendous marker for only $20. I would love to see a tourney using only Talons. : I have a couple more ideas for your backyard games. The first is a game that I love. I created it a few years ago when I was developing the Richland Snipers Guild. Here's the game. One person enters the playing area with a flag. This is the Sniper. To stay true to the game. he'll have a limited number of balls to use. He places the flag anywhere on the field and is to prevent the 'Hunters' from grabbing the flag and taking it to a predetermined location. The Hunters are not allowed to watch the Sniper enter the field and must wait 5 minutes (or any other predetermined time depending on field size) befor the enter the area. This game can be modified to accomidate varying marker qualities as well as player's skills/experience. For example, if you have two really good Hunters going aginst a lesser experienced Sniper who has a lesser quality marker, increase the Sniper's capacity and decrease the Hunters. My favorite tactic is to hang the flag where the Hunters can see it (a ways off) then hide myself just inside the playing area's boundries. Then I nail 'em just as they enter. I've got tons of great stories regarding different tactics playing this game and they almost all involve people jumping out of their pants (myself included) when they get hit when they thihnk no one else is around. : Another idea to modify play is to take off those hoppers and play with 10 round tubes stuck verticly into your elbows. This levels the playing field tremendously between different markers. Thanks Ben 'Pump Scout' Kohen for keeping this style of play alive. I play almost exclusivly w/ 10 rounders now. : Another modification might be adjusting paint capacity for 12 grams vs CA. We do that and it seems to help a lot. : As for marker suggestion. For your price range and what you're using them for I would highly recommend the Tippmann SL 68 II. Often you can pick up a whole set (marker, goggles, CA tank, hopper etc..) on E Bay for about $70. The SLs are reliable, easy to take care of, require little maintinance, are accurate enough and are built like tanks. They'll take all kinds of abouse and just keep going. There's a limited upgrade path, but they don't really need anything and you said you were'nt looking to upgrade anyway. Tippmann is also a great company that will stand behind it's product if you do need any help. : Good luck and let us know how things turn out. : : as having played with three people before and mixtures i'd say it's not really the markers people use but the people behind them. many experienced players can play just as effectivly or sometimes even better with a pump than they can a semi. : : having said that. if your just playing friendly games. the best adivice i can give you is to try diffrent scenarios rather than diffrent equipment. try attack and defend. let the one person set up in some kind of uber bunker. : : but generally free for all's are your best bet. : : AND NEVER DISRESPECT THE TALON. i'd much rather have a talon by my side than anyother battery operated nitro powered 25 ball per second poop shooter. Talon's are a serious skill marker. and i can honestly say the best times i've had palying were with a talon. even times i've pitted me and my talon against bushmasters and angels. to disrespect the talon is to disrispect the type of mentality it takes to play with a pump markers in general. but i guess since you see pump's as a way to balance out an uneven game then i guess you probably wouldn't understand that. [ Follow Ups ] [ Post Followup ] [ WARPIG Tech Talk - Stock/Pump ]