Posted by: Kamikaze1 on May 07, 2003 at 17:43:42

Hi Jasleth, Great! You are the person to ask about this problem I am having. I do not own any Carter's but do own a few Phantoms. I prefer the Phantom due to the lighter weight, not to mention the lower cost. 2 of my Phantoms are equipped with the old school power tube like the Carter's and experience occasional ball breakage when firing. I hardly get breakage with my Phantoms that have the new Tuned Port Compensator (TPC). I theorize that the old style power tube is hitting the ball with a concentrated blast of CO2 causing the breakage, whereas the newer TPC difuses the release of CO2. My question is if you experience breakage with your Carters? I have not "heard" of Carter complaining of this type of breakage and wondering why that is...being that the Carter uses a power tube almost identical to the old style Phantoms. In fact, I have found that the Carter's power tube has a smaller ID which should concentrate the CO2 release...any insight? Thanks : both are nelson based - true : I own both : I like both : but there are differences : Mike Cassidy over at CCI made a great marker that has withstood the passing of time with improvements and innovations. Phantoms are great markers designed for value and efficiency. Never let it be said that the phantom is not a good marker - its great. : Earon Carter has been refining his markers over time as well, and he chose to go the customized high end route rather than mainstream. A Carter Buzzard or Comp is a finely tuned, stainless steel and aluminum dream of a marker. Carter markers are heavier than phantoms (being part stainless) not quite as air efficient, but I tend to get a bit more range and the steel to steel operation gives me a silky smooth cycle that does manage to eclipse the butter smooth phantom operation. : as a testament to both, Ive been shooting both since the early 90's and have not parted with either. They both have their niches and they are both worth their weight in my eyes. : I think a fair comparison would be - phantom is a workhorse of a marker that is a great value and wont let you down. The carter is a race horse, priced higher but has prestige as well as higher end materials built into it. : hats off to both Earon and Mike, I will always be happy to play with their toys. : Jasleth

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