Posted by: Head_Hunters on March 29, 2003 at 12:34:47

1 Saddam does have chemical and bio weapons he has used them on his own people 2 in the past he has tried to invaid 2 other countries 3 he has failed to obey Many UN resolutions in the past 4. He is a brutal dictator. Nobody disagrees that the world would be a better place if he didn't control Iraq. Even the Arab states. The UN is Impotent. It has failed to act in "Humanitarian" crises repeatedly. If they did, it was too little too late for hundreds of thousands of lives. I don't blame BUSH for saying to heck with the UN after giving them the opportunity to back their own resolutions. The US has publically declared what "National Interests" we are defending. Unfortunately, Bush has lied to the whole world by OMITTING that the stability of the price of a barrel of oil is ONE of America's Vital interests. It IS and every reasonable, informed person knows it. Instead he states is ISN'T about oil. Who thinks that PART of this war ISN'T ABOUT OIL? Why doesn'the plan to 'liberate' North Korea? No oil. They admit to developing Weapons of MASS Destructions. But if US Policy is to become the world's policeman, then America HAS a problem. Your local policeman doesn't make up the law. The community makes up the law and the policeman's job is to enforce the law uniformly for all of the community members. Policemen that selectively enforces the law on only "certain groups" are widely disrespected by the entire community. Policemen that break the law or impose 'street justice' are considered the scum of the earth. They have POWER and if they abuse it, they get no respect from the community affected. They violate the community's trust and their duty as policemen. If the US is going to become the world's policeman then the US has to give UP CONTROL over what 'laws' they choose to enforce or not enforce. The world community has to make up the laws and have a standing police force to enforce them equally and consistently. And be under the command and control of the world community. There are a LOT of good reasons the US shouldn't do that. So why should WE be trying to be the worlds policeman without international support? Simply, we shouldn't. They can't make up the rules and change them whenever they want based on our 'national interests' at the time... We armed Iraq to fight Iran. We armed Saudia Arabia to fight Iran. We are behaving just like some gang on the street running a protection racket. We decide who our friends and enemies are and interact with them as we see fit. We demand tribute from are friends and enemies. We favor those that pay and punish those that resist. We pay and arm one country to go beat up on another. We hire others to do our dirty work. America is being perceived, whether we like it or not, and whether is it true or not, as the Bully on the Block. Not the policeman. Our country has been meddling in the middle east for over 50 years. How many governments and wars has the US and its military aid programs supported and opposed during that time. People have long memories when a country imposes its will on yours. Down south they havn't forgotten the Civil War yet... That was over a hundred years ago. 911 was terrible but that was ONE day that 50 plus years of US policy in the Middle East came home to bite us. Time will tell if this little adventure in Iraq has created MORE problems than it solved. News this week states that we have alienated the "Moderate Arabs" Well, nobody asked what the impact is by pissing off the Arabs that already hate us even more. Got to ask yourself how many MORE of them are willing to fly planes into buildings this week compared to last month? Damned if you do, damned if you don't. Enough reason to get rid of Saddam. But the price WILL be high. Blood, Guts, and shattered lives and families on both sides. The political price will be high too. Time will tell....

Follow Ups: Re: I support the war - sort of....... DaveA 12:31:00 03/30/03 (2) Re: I support the war - sort of....... Dale "Head_Hunters" DuPont 12:52:02 04/06/03 (0) Re: I support the war - sort of....... Dale "Head_Hunters" DuPont 12:06:14 04/06/03 (0) Post a Followup Show your name as: DefaultRealnameBothNickname E-Mail address (eg: joeschmoe@aol.com): Show your e-mail address? DefaultYesNo Your Password: Don't have a password? CLICK HERE - Forgot your password? CLICK HERE Subject: Subject:Message: : 1 Saddam does have chemical and bio weapons he has used them on his own people : 2 in the past he has tried to invaid 2 other countries : 3 he has failed to obey Many UN resolutions in the past : 4. He is a brutal dictator. : Nobody disagrees that the world would be a better place if he didn't control Iraq. Even the Arab states. : The UN is Impotent. It has failed to act in "Humanitarian" crises repeatedly. If they did, it was too little too late for hundreds of thousands of lives. I don't blame BUSH for saying to heck with the UN after giving them the opportunity to back their own resolutions. : The US has publically declared what "National Interests" we are defending. Unfortunately, Bush has lied to the whole world by OMITTING that the stability of the price of a barrel of oil is ONE of America's Vital interests. It IS and every reasonable, informed person knows it. Instead he states is ISN'T about oil. Who thinks that PART of this war ISN'T ABOUT OIL? : Why doesn'the plan to 'liberate' North Korea? No oil. They admit to developing Weapons of MASS Destructions. : But if US Policy is to become the world's policeman, then America HAS a problem. Your local policeman doesn't make up the law. The community makes up the law and the policeman's job is to enforce the law uniformly for all of the community members. : Policemen that selectively enforces the law on only "certain groups" are widely disrespected by the entire community. Policemen that break the law or impose 'street justice' are considered the scum of the earth. They have POWER and if they abuse it, they get no respect from the community affected. They violate the community's trust and their duty as policemen. : If the US is going to become the world's policeman then the US has to give UP CONTROL over what 'laws' they choose to enforce or not enforce. : The world community has to make up the laws and have a standing police force to enforce them equally and consistently. And be under the command and control of the world community. There are a LOT of good reasons the US shouldn't do that. So why should WE be trying to be the worlds policeman without international support? Simply, we shouldn't. : They can't make up the rules and change them whenever they want based on our 'national interests' at the time... We armed Iraq to fight Iran. We armed Saudia Arabia to fight Iran. : We are behaving just like some gang on the street running a protection racket. We decide who our friends and enemies are and interact with them as we see fit. We demand tribute from are friends and enemies. We favor those that pay and punish those that resist. We pay and arm one country to go beat up on another. We hire others to do our dirty work. : America is being perceived, whether we like it or not, and whether is it true or not, as the Bully on the Block. Not the policeman. : Our country has been meddling in the middle east for over 50 years. How many governments and wars has the US and its military aid programs supported and opposed during that time. People have long memories when a country imposes its will on yours. Down south they havn't forgotten the Civil War yet... That was over a hundred years ago. 911 was terrible but that was ONE day that 50 plus years of US policy in the Middle East came home to bite us. : Time will tell if this little adventure in Iraq has created MORE problems than it solved. News this week states that we have alienated the "Moderate Arabs" Well, nobody asked what the impact is by pissing off the Arabs that already hate us even more. Got to ask yourself how many MORE of them are willing to fly planes into buildings this week compared to last month? : Damned if you do, damned if you don't. Enough reason to get rid of Saddam. But the price WILL be high. Blood, Guts, and shattered lives and families on both sides. The political price will be high too. Time will tell.... [ Follow Ups ] [ Post Followup ] [ WARPIG Tech Talk - Autococker / Minicocker ]