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Posted by pb-allstar on February 27, 2002 at 00:10:30:

In Reply to: Here we go again. posted by Doc Holiday on February 26, 2002 at 12:19:38:

: ...Apparently I didn't cover this well enough.

: "Ok heres a few things to think about. You said you have a hinge trigger on your cocker, what kind is it?!?

: ...WGP hinge. Fully adjustable trigger stop.

: Or what kind of three way are you using, if you're using a long one no wonder you can't shoot as fast.

: ...Well that would make sense if I didn't know cockers, but like I told you before... I do. I'm using a Bomb 4 way.

: "or how about your trigger sear is it stock style or roller????

: It's the standard WGP sear that comes with the hinge trigger, if you knew how the hinge trigger functioned you would also know that a roller sear is of no benefit. My hammer lug is tappered however, it's a shocktech "Phat" hammer.

: "And anyone who has ever shot an angel and a cocker knows that cockers shoot about 20 feet farther than any angel at the same velocity.

: Now here is where you are wrong. No marker, I repeat NO MARKER shoots farther than any other marker using the same paint and paint and barrel and chrono'd at the same velocity. A paintball excelerated to 300 fps is going to travel "X" amount of distance regardless of what marker fired it. A paintball does not know if it is being shot out of an angel, a cocker, a shocker or a brass eagle samurai. Bottom line, the only way one marker will shoot farther than another is if you impart backspin on it, like the tippman flatline... and even then it's questionable because it doesn't always shoot straight. The laws of physics apply to paintball as well as anything else and what you stated is simply impossible. I challenge you to benchmount a cocker and an angel at the exact same angle, chrono both at the same speed, using the same paint and same barrel and fire them indoors so there is no wind to affect the results. You will see that they are even. No difference. This is the last i'm going to post in this matter because it's a waste of time. If you don't believe me, try what I suggested, if you don't want to do that go ask any high school physics teacher. Tell them one is closed bolt and one is open bolt and explain everything. They will smile, laugh at you internally, and tell you that ANY object with the same amount of force exerted on it (Barring any outside interference [like wind] will travel the same distance as any other like object with the same amount of force exerted on it. Bottom line. You can't argue with physics man, it's an exact science.

: -Doc

One last thing Doc you said the thing you loved about autocockers was that you could customize them to the extent that none of the origonal parts ar left on the gun. Now I ask you this can you possibly do this with your angel??? Oh and by the way I took my cocker and my friends angel down to the field test strip at my local dealer chonoed(?) the guns bench mounted them at the same angle and had the same paint to barrel match. We shot off 20 rounds with each gun. Guess which gun averaged 23.4 feet more distance. That's right the autococker.

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Re: one more thing DougSeman 10:26:14 02/27/02 (4)
- Re: one more thing pb-allstar 19:55:22 02/27/02 (3)
  - Re: one more thing DougSeman 20:11:27 02/28/02 (2)
    - Re: one more thing pb-allstar 22:58:01 02/28/02 (1)
      - Re: one more thing DougSeman 11:09:06 03/01/02 (0)

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: : ...Apparently I didn't cover this well enough. : : "Ok heres a few things to think about. You said you have a hinge trigger on your cocker, what kind is it?!? : : ...WGP hinge. Fully adjustable trigger stop. : : Or what kind of three way are you using, if you're using a long one no wonder you can't shoot as fast. : : ...Well that would make sense if I didn't know cockers, but like I told you before... I do. I'm using a Bomb 4 way. : : "or how about your trigger sear is it stock style or roller???? : : It's the standard WGP sear that comes with the hinge trigger, if you knew how the hinge trigger functioned you would also know that a roller sear is of no benefit. My hammer lug is tappered however, it's a shocktech "Phat" hammer. : : "And anyone who has ever shot an angel and a cocker knows that cockers shoot about 20 feet farther than any angel at the same velocity. : : Now here is where you are wrong. No marker, I repeat NO MARKER shoots farther than any other marker using the same paint and paint and barrel and chrono'd at the same velocity. A paintball excelerated to 300 fps is going to travel "X" amount of distance regardless of what marker fired it. A paintball does not know if it is being shot out of an angel, a cocker, a shocker or a brass eagle samurai. Bottom line, the only way one marker will shoot farther than another is if you impart backspin on it, like the tippman flatline... and even then it's questionable because it doesn't always shoot straight. The laws of physics apply to paintball as well as anything else and what you stated is simply impossible. I challenge you to benchmount a cocker and an angel at the exact same angle, chrono both at the same speed, using the same paint and same barrel and fire them indoors so there is no wind to affect the results. You will see that they are even. No difference. This is the last i'm going to post in this matter because it's a waste of time. If you don't believe me, try what I suggested, if you don't want to do that go ask any high school physics teacher. Tell them one is closed bolt and one is open bolt and explain everything. They will smile, laugh at you internally, and tell you that ANY object with the same amount of force exerted on it (Barring any outside interference [like wind] will travel the same distance as any other like object with the same amount of force exerted on it. Bottom line. You can't argue with physics man, it's an exact science. : : -Doc : One last thing Doc you said the thing you loved about autocockers was that you could customize them to the extent that none of the origonal parts ar left on the gun. Now I ask you this can you possibly do this with your angel??? Oh and by the way I took my cocker and my friends angel down to the field test strip at my local dealer chonoed(?) the guns bench mounted them at the same angle and had the same paint to barrel match. We shot off 20 rounds with each gun. Guess which gun averaged 23.4 feet more distance. That's right the autococker.

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